Musicians Collaboration Studio
How To => Production Tips and Tricks! => Topic started by: TallPaul on January 28, 2009, 04:19:52 PM
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Hi All,
I thought of making some screencasts of how I use Band In A Box as a songwriting tool. I thought I'd see if anyone had any interest?
Paul
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I don't have band in the box, but I wouldn't mind seeing what you do.
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Yeah, I would like to see.
I tend to get into a unproductive rut.
Might be good to see different ways of doing stuff.
Jello
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Sure. I've used BIB. It's just another tool for songwriting. There's many ways to go about writing a tune and that's a good one if your a bit stalled on what to write. As long as you replace it all with real instruments to get the human feel and allow the artists to take it into it's own direction what the hell. :)
Dave
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Sounds interesting....always good to learn something new :)
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Ok, I'll try and get a start on it over the weekend?
Paul
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Make a video :)
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I don't like bands in a box. Drummers hog up all the room and it's so tight in there. ???
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I don't like bands in a box. Drummers hog up all the room and it's so tight in there. ???
And then they fart beer! Disgusting!
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I don't like bands in a box. Drummers hog up all the room and it's so tight in there. ???
And then they fart beer! Disgusting!
Cool...I'll get a glass
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You might want to do something about that dog first....or you might be singing saprano ;D
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What dog? :-)
I ran into a hickup today trying to do some screencasting. A key part of what I am trying to record isn't in the audio chain for me to record. Trying to work through that!
Paul
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What dog? :-)
Paul
I thought it was a dog...maybe you really need a brazilian wax
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I don't like bands in a box. Drummers hog up all the room and it's so tight in there. ???
I get carried away with it sometimes.
So this is an example:
http://tacman7.com/OpenDoor2a.wma
I write the song first in BIAB then add vox and guitars.
So it's cool and all but it does get crowded in there.
That and I switch styles to drastically, Casia said it sounds like two different songs.
But I like the change.
Think I just have to clear out some notes so the vox has a place to sit.
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sounds cool Tom :)
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That sounds nice, Tom!
Yeah, I think their piano player gets a little 'busy' at times. The only way to stop that is to change the style which apparently takes a lot of skill.
It sounds to me like you are using a variety of styles in that song? Around the :40 mark?
Nice vocals BTW!
Sorry I didn't respond earlier. I must have got an email and not checked in!
Paul
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Hey Paul, I'll ask this on your thread instead ;D. I was wondering if there were BIAB Real Tracks based on extended chords / jazz chords. I think I hear some on My Lost Child. That sounds really good!
Mark
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Oh puke! The Band in a Box people were involved in the creation of Songsmith! How could they? :o For shame!
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Hi Mark,
Yeah, I had posted a reply to the other topic that got lost, asking that we reconvene here.
You can enter extended chords. Whether or not it's going to play those chords can depend on the style, etc. I attached a sample. For the style of the song I chose _J140_A2 J Smith Jazz Quartet which includes by default real tracks of: Acoustic Bass, drums, rhythm elec jazz guitar, and alto sax. Then I asked it to load a demo song in this style. So in the attached Chords.pdf you can see the first 32 bars were from the demo arrangement (140 BPM). I then added my own 12 bars (plus 2 bars for an ending), just kind of playing around with different voicings. I then told it to make a MIDI file, which has the side effect of dumping the Real Tracks to WAV files and (in my case, and ONLY if you have Real Drums as part of the song. Weird, but true, at least in my case.) dumping a mix out of all the Real Tracks... that's what I posted here as JazzSample1.mp3.
To show how things can go 'wrong', though, I then added a Real Tracks Fiddle. This is in JazzSample2.mp3. Nice sounding fiddle, but how it's played and the chords it's voicing are all wrong for the song!
Paul
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I'd never heard of Songsmith, and Googled it. Found this link! The Billy Idol take is hilarious!
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/31/so-bad-it-hurts-classic-hits-by-microsoft-songsmith/
Paul
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I'd never heard of Songsmith, and Googled it. Found this link! The Billy Idol take is hilarious!
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/31/so-bad-it-hurts-classic-hits-by-microsoft-songsmith/
Paul
Yeah, it's so bad! It sounds good maybe 10% of the time when Songsmith accidently chooses the right chord! I'm pretty sure this product is a PR disaster for Microsoft, which is no stranger to releasing stuff that doesn't work.
Your jazz workup sounds amazing. Who would ever know you used BIAB? Sounds like you hired a quartet.