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Title: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 22, 2011, 01:36:45 PM
Just bought me a new desktop for music... I cloned the HD from the other 'puter and everything is working fine, exacly mounted the same way the other one was but now I got noise on the monitors and phones even when nothing is playing... If I move the mouse, there's more noise, when the HD are loading, there's even more noise, if I'm doing nothing, there's noise

I got the latest drivers of the sound card and it is an Edirol UA4FX, usb unit... Any clues?

PS... it is not damadged, if I connect it to the other 'puter, there's no noise at all.
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 22, 2011, 06:18:50 PM
You know somewhere in the dark recesses of my brain I remember reading about mouse movement causing audio problems on music Pc's.

As far as I can recall it was related to the graphics card/driver. Sorry I can't remember any more than that, it was probably in Sound on Sound or somewhere I read it...it was a few years back.

Might be worth checking out. Just have to eliminate these things one at a time.

CD
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 23, 2011, 09:18:49 AM
Hmmm... When windows loads insafe mode there's no noise at all!!!
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 23, 2011, 09:29:09 AM
Hmmm... When windows loads insafe mode there's no noise at all!!!

Make sure you have the latest drivers for the graphics card. Try disabling 3d accelleration if you have the option.  Also try swapping the card for your old one if you can.

CD
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 23, 2011, 10:47:06 AM
Make sure you have the latest drivers for the graphics card.

I wil, althought it's a nre 'puter

Try disabling 3d accelleration if you have the option. 

I'll see if there's such a thing, I doub it, it's an onboard Intel unit.

Also try swapping the card for your old one if you can.

I can't they're onboard cards... I'll try a pci card to see what happens.
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 23, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
Yeah , disable the onboard in the bios and stick your Pci one in. See if that helps. If not then at least it's one thing to cross off the list  8)

CD
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: mickbrit55 on December 24, 2011, 07:38:24 PM
Try the following link. I would swap out your power supply :

http://www.viper007bond.com/2010/02/23/high-pitched-noise-over-speakers-when-moving-mouse/ (http://www.viper007bond.com/2010/02/23/high-pitched-noise-over-speakers-when-moving-mouse/)

Mick.
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 25, 2011, 03:15:21 PM
Thans guys... As soon as I try that, I'll tell you.
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 28, 2011, 05:45:39 PM
No sound card, no power supply... Sometimes I forget about my family and within my family there's some smart and expereinced arses like my brother.. It's an earth loop problem... disconnect the earth from the 'puter or the audio monitors, that's it!!!... Thanks brother  ;D... Besides that, he plays a mean guitar  :o

Gee!!!
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 29, 2011, 05:11:02 AM
No !

I've read about people being injured or killed by doing this. Your equipment needs to be earthed for safety reasons.

Now at least you know the problem you can fix it, but reconnect the earth or risk electrocution.

www.soundonsound.com/SOS/aug06/articles/qa/0806_4.htm

Hope the link works as I can't figure the copy and paste on this tablet :-)

Cd
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 29, 2011, 05:45:56 AM
No !

I've read about people being injured or killed by doing this. Your equipment needs to be earthed for safety reasons.


Yes you're right... I'll disconnect from the monitors, they're made of wood, they won't hurt me.
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 29, 2011, 05:55:10 AM
No !

I've read about people being injured or killed by doing this. Your equipment needs to be earthed for safety reasons.


Yes you're right... I'll disconnect from the monitors, they're made of wood, they won't hurt me.

I'm no electrician but I don't think that will stop you getting a shock if anything went wrong  :o  Everything is connected to each other right ?


http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/studiosos.htm

CD

Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 29, 2011, 06:23:58 AM
All the system is connected to each other so, if one of the pieces is earthed, you won't be injured.
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 29, 2011, 06:33:53 AM
All the system is connected to each other so, if one of the pieces is earthed, you won't be injured.

No I think the opposite is true. If you remove one earth then it can all potentially become live if there's a fault in any of the equipment connected.

There's plenty of info though if you Google it.

CD
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 29, 2011, 06:57:55 AM
HMMM!!!
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 29, 2011, 08:47:55 AM
There's something wrong in the info from ones and others... Gotta read and talk more to different people... Some say one thing, others say the opposite!!!
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 29, 2011, 09:37:51 AM
There's something wrong in the info from ones and others... Gotta read and talk more to different people... Some say one thing, others say the opposite!!!

Yep.

Ask an electrician  ;D

Personally I would trust the SOS guy , he's an ex BBC engineer.

CD
Title: Re: New 'puter makes noise
Post by: Paulo on December 30, 2011, 07:15:46 AM
I reconnected the 'puter to earth and disconnected the audio monitors, it's sounds great, no noise at all..
For now I'll lett it this way untill I find something better or find a different solution... I've talked to another guy from a music store and he told me that what I did is what they advise the clients to do in a case like this...

... My brother sais the same and does it for ages, nothing happened 'till now... One thing is sure I can't play with all that noise.