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Title: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on January 31, 2009, 02:27:43 PM
I may be biased but I think this song came out beautifully.   8)  I have to thank everyone for their patience on completing this. It took awhile but finding a steel player (thanks Jim) plus holidays etc. it just took a little longer than normal. Worth the wait though.  :) James did a fantastic job on the vocals and everyone did some really nice playing on this. GREAT stuff guys & gal!! One of my favourites for sure.

Dave

(Mastered version by CD on page 3 and below) Sounds great. Thanks bro!!  8)


Credits
James Ryce - Vocals
Donna Devine - Lyrics
David Patterson - Original Music, Guitars, Bass & Mixing
Jim Terry - Pedal Steel
Jay Schankman  - Piano & Organ
Dietmar Rothermund - Piano & Organ
Marc Meeker - Drums


Professional Virgin

(v1)
At thirteen she played in her mama's high heels
Giggled in the mirror at the woman revealed
Wore her old dresses, toyed with her beads
Didn't know then about some men's needs
Had girlish hopes about how love would feel

(v2)
She was fifteen when she came to the city
Man on the bus said 'Girl, ain't you pretty!'
A list of dreams was all she had
Didn't know then things were going to get bad
Man was named Johnny, seemed kind and witty

Chorus
Professional virgin in tired white lace
Faint trace of make-up on a little-girl face
Young eyes getting old as they scan the street
Heart turning bitter that used to be sweet

(v3)
Shy fifteen, she was sweeter than honey
Didn't know a thing about making money
Body of a nymph, heart full of trust
She'd never heard of a sin called lust
Learned real quick from that devil Johnny

(v4)
She's eighteen now and the dream list is gone
Johnny's left too, he grabbed the money and run
Others took his place, with the same old plan
Each one a 'daddy' but not a man
Not even a friend, so she's got no one

Bridge
Getting out of here as soon as she can, never should've left her mama alone
Leaving these heartless streets behind, still feels like a child, she wants to go home

Chorus
Professional virgin in tired white lace
Faint trace of make-up on a little-girl face
Young eyes getting old as they scan the street
Heart turning bitter that used to be sweet



(c) 2008 Donna Devine
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: NickT on January 31, 2009, 03:01:15 PM
Very smooth!

Who mixed? Cool tune.

Nice job all.

Nick
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on January 31, 2009, 03:04:34 PM
Thanks Nick. That would be me that did the mixing. Just added it to the credits. Not sure if that was wise.  ;D

Hasn't been mastered yet.  ;)

Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Tricia41 on January 31, 2009, 03:33:10 PM
Very nice!  :)


I like all the different instruments in this song!  Everything works together so nicely!

Great vocals and writing too. Worth the wait!!! :)
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: detune on January 31, 2009, 04:19:33 PM
Well done fellows!  Nice job on the mix, Dave.  The steel is a nice touch.  Vocalist is hot!

Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: CosmicDolphin on January 31, 2009, 04:35:24 PM
Turned out really well guys....well done on the mix Dave.

CD
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Stoney on January 31, 2009, 05:07:23 PM
Hey guys

Very nice mellow sound ..... well done .....good one

Ian
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Shaun on January 31, 2009, 05:42:09 PM
Ah. This is AWESOME.  It was definitely worth the wait.
Congratulations everyone.
(Donna, you must be pleased as punch! - whatever that means) ;D

Shaun
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: meekofnature on January 31, 2009, 05:44:18 PM
Hey Dave,
   Thank you for mixing this one, it came out great!  Good job with the steel too  8>  Did you wind up using the drum seps or just the stereo mix? 

Marc
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: canuk62 on January 31, 2009, 06:14:43 PM
A real masterpiece Dave...been keeping tabs on this one for a while..the pedal steel absolutely sends it to a different level (man, I really need to get one of those things...next toy! ;D), with the piano and keys rolling along with it..it's so haunting with the lyrics as well...a real classic. It's also such an explosive format here in North America....hit the the rock and country stations simultaneously...double whammy! ;D ;D Can't wait to get the album..2 thumbs up everyone :)
Marc
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: PVD on January 31, 2009, 07:06:07 PM
Everyone:

Very good, well done.

Paul
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on January 31, 2009, 08:00:30 PM
Thanks everyone. I think the song came out nicely. I would love to have a pedal steel too Marc but I hear they're not easy to play. Sure wouldn't mind trying though.


Marc informed me that the song title says "Heaven'. Whoops  :-[ I'll fix that. That's what happens when your working on more songs than one.  ;D
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: r4m on January 31, 2009, 09:48:06 PM
WoW Dave! Nice tune! Great performances by all! Nice Mix too!!!
Gonna burn a disc and listen to it with my hound dog in my pickup truck!  ;D
Just kiding Dave, this is great!
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on January 31, 2009, 09:52:22 PM
What do mean just kidding? You don't have a pickup truck? How do you and your hound dog get around?

Thanks bro!!  :)
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Pleasuredome on February 01, 2009, 01:50:11 AM
Great song and performances Dave and all 8) 8)

The lyric is great too, you actually feel you are absolutely with her and that ther life turns around :( :(
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on February 01, 2009, 03:28:55 PM
Thanks Steve.  :)

Although this tune is done can anyone master it for me? HELP!!  I haven't got the volume out of it. I left some headroom and have 24 bit wav if anyone can help me out. I haven't figured the volume/compression thing out yet.  ::)  ;D

Dave
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: CosmicDolphin on February 01, 2009, 03:50:53 PM
Quote from: Studioplayer on February 01, 2009, 03:28:55 PM
Thanks Steve.  :)

Although this tune is done can anyone master it for me? HELP!!  I haven't got the volume out of it. I left some headroom and have 24 bit wav if anyone can help me out. I haven't figured the volume/compression thing out yet.  ::)  ;D

Dave

Sure Dave.....no probs....but if it makes the CD then it'll probably be done again to fit in with the other songs I guess .


CD
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on February 01, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
Thanks CD. After the rush slows down here I still wouldn't mind a master for anyone who's worked on this. I think that will really make it sparkle.  :)
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Donna on February 01, 2009, 04:04:57 PM
Thanks, everyone.  ;)  I'm glad you liked the lyric, Steve.  :)  We can only hope she did manage to "leave these heartless streets behind", eh?
Hey, Shaun, little sister!  ;D You bet I'm pleased as punch.  ;)

The guys did a splendid job on this, and were wonderful to work with. :D

Donna
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on February 01, 2009, 04:53:24 PM
And we'll do more !!!  ;)
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: CosmicDolphin on February 01, 2009, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: Studioplayer on February 01, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
Thanks CD. After the rush slows down here I still wouldn't mind a master for anyone who's worked on this. I think that will really make it sparkle.  :)

Well sort me the ape out and I'll take a look...or a listen ..whichever   >:D

Cd
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Thunder on February 01, 2009, 05:31:53 PM
Sounds great Davester :)
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on February 02, 2009, 05:31:42 PM
Cheers Todd. I'm pretty pleased with this one.  :)

Now to make more!!  >:D
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: James Ryce on February 25, 2009, 10:34:50 AM
Hey Dave, just found this posted here.  Man I have been so busy lately haven't had time to pop on the site too much.
Song turned out great and I really enjoyed leaving my comfort zone of my more traditional style of Country singing.  Took a bit to get my head around the tone of my voice and such.
Great job to all involved and thanks to all for comments on the vocals.

I really do need to hang out at this site more ;).

James.
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: E-mann on February 25, 2009, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: Studioplayer on February 01, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
Thanks CD. After the rush slows down here I still wouldn't mind a master for anyone who's worked on this. I think that will really make it sparkle.  :)

How do you master a track? I wanna learn. Whats the diff with mastering and mixing?
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Donna on February 26, 2009, 04:17:48 AM
James, good to see you here.  :) I for one hope you'll hang around more.
I've got another song in mind that I'd love you to sing... ;)

E-man, give Google a quick check. ;) Here's one link I pulled up quickly.
http://www.futureproducers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282451

Donna
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Black Stratman on February 28, 2009, 08:55:28 AM
Great tune El Dave  ;)

I remember this one starting and lost track of it until now that is. Well finished song keep up the good work

Bobby
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Donna on November 16, 2010, 05:42:39 AM
Dave et al., a few more - albeit belated -kudos for your great song have trickled in off-site. ;)

Donna
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This is a powerful ballad.  Paints an everyday tragedy that we have probably all come across in one way or another.  FF
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Heavy subject matter and pulled off exquisitely. This is a grand Country ballad. Strong performances by all involved.  Sandy
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Amazing! I have to be my own band when I record, so I am envious of you having such great musos to work with.  Great tune and great country sound. IanR
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Johnny on November 16, 2010, 09:28:26 AM

Great tune guys,
I'm not big country music fan, but this sounds better than most of the stuff I hear droning out of the speakers at the local hardware store.

I love a good ballad, and this one hits every mark, but why is "Johnny" always the devil in disguise in these things ;D
O yeah, I remember now.... ;)   
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Albino on November 16, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
Dave and everyone. Nice tune, well performed
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: SWANSONG on November 16, 2010, 12:57:47 PM
HI Dave
New here just exploring the great music. really nice country sounding
ballad. love the lyrics wonderful vox superb song. this should b on
the radio. very soothng sound and well executed. tc NEIL
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: CosmicDolphin on November 16, 2010, 02:00:26 PM
Seing this thread come back to life has reminded me...here's the Mastered version I did for the ill fated MCS CD vol II  ::)

At least you can hear it now  :)

CD

Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: CosmicDolphin on November 16, 2010, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: E-man on February 25, 2009, 07:20:33 PM
Quote from: Studioplayer on February 01, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
Thanks CD. After the rush slows down here I still wouldn't mind a master for anyone who's worked on this. I think that will really make it sparkle.  :)

How do you master a track? I wanna learn. Whats the diff with mastering and mixing?

Mixing is collecting all the separate tracks and blending them into a cohesive song....

Mastering is taking a song that has been mixed , and using various tools too make it sound better.  In the old days it was to make sure nothing caused the needle to jump out it's groove on a record. It's also about making a collection of album tracks sound like they belong together tonallly and volume-wise. Lately it's been about making things sound bigger & louder often at the expense of sound quality.  Personally I blame people listening to music on tiny crappy speakers in phones etc. where the music is inaudible unless it's been highly compresed & limited. It's also about spacing tracks , sequencing the album etc.

How do you master a track ?   Read everything you can , I suggest a book by Bob Katz called 'Mastering Audio' which has everything you'd probably ever need to know and more.

Cd
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Donna on November 16, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
Thanks so much for that mastered version, CD.  :)

Donna
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Studioplayer on November 17, 2010, 02:52:12 PM
Thanks for comments guys  :)

Quote from: Johnny on November 16, 2010, 09:28:26 AM

Great tune guys,
I'm not big country music fan, but this sounds better than most of the stuff I hear droning out of the speakers at the local hardware store.

I love a good ballad, and this one hits every mark, but why is "Johnny" always the devil in disguise in these things ;D
O yeah, I remember now.... ;)   

Yep, gotta watch out for those Johnny's  ;D


Nice comments Donna. I have Jame Ryce's album and it's quite good. Listen to it often. He has a fantastic voice.  8)


MARK!! That mastered version sounds FANTASTIC!!!  8) Great job on it buddy. I really wish we could still get that album out somehow. At least get it up to CD Baby. So much work has been done on it especially all the mastering work. It would be a shame to not have it on CD somewhere.  :(


And thanks for resurrecting this one. It reminds me that some fine music is being made here and I really gotta get back on the musical horse and starting riding again. My studio is done so no reason to not get going again.  :)

Love this tune.  :)

Dave
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: Donna on November 18, 2010, 04:09:12 PM
And a few more kudos, Gentlemen.  :)

Donna
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Great lyrics, Donna! A bit sad story, but fits in that beautiful country melody! All things works well on this song and performance!  Kari
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Sad story, but very well told and fitting to the genre.
Great performance from all involved !  Geir
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Powerful and sad song! I'm depressed now.
This is one of the best songs I've heard on this site [SC] so far. The lyrics are excellent, and the music/ musicians are flawless. This is professional stuff, you should charge us!
I would love to hear Toni Price singing this!  DSS
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I did not know you collaborated with James too. Perfect fit!
And even Dietmar played on that song. I haven't heard anything from him for quite some time
Very nice, Donna. Not too much plain country, just the right dose for my taste.
Regards, Steffen
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top class song Donna -
great vocals from james - FB
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Superb Lyrics
Reminded me of Bruce Springsteens Darker sde
The Gentle arrangement of vox and music
adds to this sad picture
Excellent in every way!  TR
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an absolutely sublime song with wonderful contributions from all concerned. This is top notch and then some.  Willie
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As Pro as it gets!!!!
Superb sounding Track!!!! Tharek
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Powerful stuff!  ORH
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Perfect song. Every instrument sounds great, mixing is so well balanced. And the lyrics - quite a story! Halem
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This is such a great song, deep lyrics!!!Wonderfully written and performed !!!!  Gary
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Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: CosmicDolphin on November 18, 2010, 04:14:55 PM
Quote from: Studioplayer on November 17, 2010, 02:52:12 PM

MARK!! That mastered version sounds FANTASTIC!!!  8) Great job on it buddy. I really wish we could still get that album out somehow. At least get it up to CD Baby. So much work has been done on it especially all the mastering work. It would be a shame to not have it on CD somewhere.  :(


Dave

Cheers Bro..though after what I learned yesterday I might wanna re-work the whole thing  ;D

CD
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: AviR on November 24, 2010, 05:35:13 AM
Beautiful song, I love this mellow emotional stuff. The vocals are really shinning here.
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: nitch on November 24, 2010, 04:54:27 PM
Well done.

The pedal steel adds so much to this song!
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: docmidnite on December 09, 2010, 06:07:57 AM
Super!!!!! Worth the wait!!!!

Man, listening through some of the finished songs makes me think: We have a bunch of supercreative guys here!!! From Country, to Disco, to Rock even Cha Cha Cha!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Professional Virgin
Post by: soulfrontier on December 09, 2010, 09:21:51 AM
great song Dave, love the feeling, the vocals are spot on, the pedal steel makes it shine.