Musicians Collaboration Studio

Virtual Music Studio => Finished Works => Topic started by: stoman on June 29, 2014, 06:32:42 AM

Title: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: stoman on June 29, 2014, 06:32:42 AM

This is a preliminary version of "Not For Sale". We would like to replace the midi drums with real ones, if possible, and I'm still not in best shape for mixing and (especially) mastering, but I think this version is still enjoyable. :)

This is the original thread in Studio "A":
http://www.musicianscollaboration.com/forum/index.php?topic=9567.0

Edit 2014-02-18:
Now with Kim Noble on backup vocals!

Lyrics: John Williams
Vocals: Steve McAndrew
Guitars: Steve McAndrew, Gary Miller, Mike Eccleson
Bass: Andy Gupta
Music & Production: Steffen Offermann

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: rightonthemark on June 29, 2014, 11:03:49 AM

sounds great.
i like it.
i hear shades of warren zevon.
pretty cool.
nice job gang.

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: stoman on June 29, 2014, 11:29:54 AM

Thanks, Mark! :)

Interesting, I had to google that name. I had never heard of Warren Zevon before.

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: Pleasuredome on June 29, 2014, 06:14:02 PM

cheers Mark and thanks bro, I'm glad you like :) :)

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: Zax on June 29, 2014, 06:30:03 PM

Nice catchy tune!!  And very nice performances all around!!

Great vocals, Steve!  Love what you do at the end!   8)

Frank

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: Pleasuredome on July 02, 2014, 10:53:56 AM

Thanks Frank 8) 8)

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: stoman on July 03, 2014, 03:33:19 PM

I've added a better mix to the first post. Still not perfect ...

Regards,
  Steffen

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: CosmicDolphin on August 29, 2014, 01:51:30 PM

This is cool...it just flows really well...reminds me of Spit Enz or someone simliar, Steve sounds a little like Tim Finn when he sings softly.


 :)

CD

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: stoman on February 18, 2015, 12:58:37 PM

I just added an update to the first post (and deleted the old versions).

Kim Noble added backup vocals, and I replaced the drum kit with a better sounding one.

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: gbm on February 18, 2015, 07:51:45 PM

Nice! Kim's BU vocals blend in great!

 ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: aim9guy on February 18, 2015, 08:30:21 PM

Very Cool!
Kyle

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: AndyG6508 on February 18, 2015, 08:44:48 PM

Hi Steffen,

Kim has a lovely voice, very professional!!

Blends in well with Steve's vocals, it's a shame that none of the drummers graced this song with real drums.

Andy

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: stoman on February 19, 2015, 02:19:45 PM

Thanks for listening, everybody!

Quote from: AndyG6508 on February 18, 2015, 08:44:48 PM

it's a shame that none of the drummers graced this song with real drums.

Yes, but never say never. Some songs only get finished after years ...

For now I can live with the midi drums, and I'd rather concentrate on some other songs than wasting time with head-hunting ... but this isn't the end of the story. :)

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: Johnny on February 19, 2015, 05:47:24 PM

Steffen,

...and all the top talent on the forum!  :o

Wow, how did you manage to wrangled a team like this together?

This sounds FAB  8) 8) 8) 8)

No wonder the song took sooo long

My Apologies for missing this the first go around!

Imagine if I had been around when Steve came on board  ::)

we'd still be in A working out the 1st verses  ;D

personally, this song has had a long, funny history from there to here...

Thank You, fellas for coming to the rescue!

(with a big hug & a welcome to "Kim", and Thank You for your Noble touch!)

You did it Steffen

Was reminded of the, "Andy" character from, "Shawshank Redemption"

time & pressure   >:D

Cheers to all those things not for sale   :)

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: Paulo on February 20, 2015, 05:45:54 AM

Oh... That's a great song, lovely.

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: gbm on February 20, 2015, 07:16:22 AM

Steffen

This really needs REAL drums!

There is a constant droning symbol sound predominantly in center that is so annoying, mainly because it is an unidentifiable sound and is taking up high end bandwidth. it could be a sustained symbol or a distorted guitar, I don't know which! But it is very annoying, it is high end dirt in the mix. Can you do a mix without that high end white noise sound?  (It stops at 1:15 - 1:22 and is clean here.)

:)

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: stoman on February 20, 2015, 10:02:40 AM

Thanks, Gentlemen! :)

Johnny, I'd love to do more tunes based on your fabulous lyrics!

Gary: Actually the sound of the drums is really great IMO. Real drums (recorded in a home studio) can never sound half as good, but: MIDI drums can never sound real in terms of performance. No way - even the most professionally recorded/programmed MIDI drums will always sound like MIDI, but it's really just the performance, not the sound

The performance is quite ok for a pop/rock song, but it's just not real. A human drummer would play different patterns and make mistakes that provide a more organic feel which would do the song good. It's not really essential for the song to work, but it would take it to the next level.

As for that synth sound/FX you mentioned: That's actually an essential part of the song. It was designed that way, and I love it. :) Matter of taste, obviously, but I'm afraid you'd have to pay me a billion dollars to mute it! :D

I know, producers can be stubborn. :D

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: NickT on February 22, 2015, 11:15:13 AM

Quote from: stoman on February 20, 2015, 10:02:40 AM

As for that synth sound/FX you mentioned: That's actually an essential part of the song. It was designed that way, and I love it. :) Matter of taste, obviously, but I'm afraid you'd have to pay me a billion dollars to mute it! :D

I know, producers can be stubborn. :D

I guess you are not for sale!!!!

Great job guys and gal.

NickT

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: stoman on February 22, 2015, 01:01:53 PM

Definitely not for sale! :D ;)

Thanks, Nick. When will we finally hear you making music again?

Quote from: NickT on February 22, 2015, 11:15:13 AM

Quote from: stoman on February 20, 2015, 10:02:40 AM

As for that synth sound/FX you mentioned: That's actually an essential part of the song. It was designed that way, and I love it. :) Matter of taste, obviously, but I'm afraid you'd have to pay me a billion dollars to mute it! :D

I know, producers can be stubborn. :D

I guess you are not for sale!!!!

Great job guys and gal.

NickT

Title: Re: Not For Sale (Kim, Johnny, Stoman, Gbm, Pleasuredome, AndyG, ...)
Post by: NickT on February 22, 2015, 04:15:05 PM

Quote from: stoman on February 22, 2015, 01:01:53 PM

Definitely not for sale! :D ;)

Thanks, Nick. When will we finally hear you making music again?

Soon. But I am happy music is still being created here!

NickT