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Title: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on May 29, 2007, 10:00:47 AM
I'm running winxp on a new computer.  When I go to my sound controls, there is no control for the line in volume (in the playback properties), even when I go to advanced controls.  Where and how do I find and activate this control?  the reason I ask is that I cannot hear myself playing.  The signal will still record, but I cannot hear in real time.  pls help.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: James J on May 29, 2007, 02:26:13 PM
If you go to the sound controls there should be a tab on top that says "audio" Open it up to the recording and check the input and the volume. Ironically it's this tab and not the volume tab that changes the volume. Some soundcards do not allow for monitoring during recording. In this case you need to either use a preamp or mixer to monitor or buy a new sound card.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on May 29, 2007, 05:15:28 PM
are you telling me I had a better sound card in my POS 733 Mhz pent II with win 98??  besides that - how can you stay in a pocket while recording if you can't  hear what you are doing?? :o
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: James J on May 29, 2007, 11:13:47 PM
Maybe I didn't understand the question. Most newer sound cards allow you to monitor incoming signals. An easy fix might be to go to accessories, entertainment and find your volume controls. Another possibility would be to go to devices and check the settings on your card. Did you try the original fix I recommended? One of the three fixes is probably the answer to your problems.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on May 30, 2007, 12:56:30 AM
yeah - I guess I need a different sound card - strange ???
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: Letizia on May 30, 2007, 11:05:09 AM
been a long time since i dealt with a standard soundcard, but the option to add more controls to the windows mixer is somewhere in the sounds and audio devices properties.... i think.

you don't mention what type soundcard, so i'm assuming it's an onboard, no-name card. if it's a soundblaster, it might have a feature called "what you hear" option, that needs to be selected.

also curious what your recording chain is
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on May 30, 2007, 12:56:12 PM
recording chain
  Not sure what a recording chain is.  I'm running Cool edit pro 2 if that helps.  I have tried searching in the device properties and everything else I can think of.  Like people say - it's gotta be something simple.  I believe the souncard and drivers are as follows (not sure though):  VIA high definition audio(UAA) and Legacy Audio drivers.  That's what comes up in my device manager anyways.  Hope that helps.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: Studioplayer on May 30, 2007, 02:30:54 PM
I may be just rehasing something your already doing. It's hard to tell from this conversation.

On the bottom right tray (by your clock) there's a small speaker icon. Right click on that and 'Open Volume Control'. There you should see some sliders. Go to 'Options' - 'Properties' and in there you should see more options for your playback. Select the ones you want to see and you should have more sliders/controls to work with. Make sure you don't have the mutes on something that shouldn't be. Also under 'Options' - 'Properties' you will see 'recording'. Select that and another set of controls will show up. Say OK and you will see the sliders for recording.  You should be able to adjust your line in, volume, etc. from those two areas. Hope that helps if you haven't already done that. :)

Dave

PS. I believe your control for adjusting what you hear while playing is under Volume Control/Options/Properties/Recording.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on May 30, 2007, 04:39:49 PM
...'Options' - 'Properties' and in there you should see more options for your playback...  Also under 'Options' - 'Properties' you will see 'recording'.

right.  This is what I have tried.  Under 'recording' there is a line input level.  But under 'playback' there is no line output level (like there is with win 98).  I think that I need this control to enable the signal to the output of the soundcard.  Yes/no?
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: Hazz on May 30, 2007, 05:21:41 PM
Lets try a different route

Start - Settings - Control Panel - Sounds and Audio Devices

Once there, click on the Audio tab
Under Sound Playback it should say what Sound card is being used, click on Advanced, you will see a dropdown menu that lists different speaker configurations, be sure that "No Speakers" is NOT selected and select the type of system you are using.

Go back to the Audio tab you opened, look at the box labeled "Sound Recording" and be sure you see your sound card listed there. You may not have the ability to go into the Advanced window so click on
Volume - Properties - and mark all the boxes you see then close that window and then make sure there are no controls with "Mute" selected.

Then go back to the Sounds and Audio Devices window, click on the hardware tab. Highlight each line (one at a time) and down on the bottom of the window it will tell you if that device is working properly. If not then hit the trouble shoot button and see what is says.

Recording chain - how are you getting the sound from your instrument to the computer?
Speaking of which, are you plugged into the correct jacks on the sound card?

Hazz
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: Hazz on May 30, 2007, 05:25:12 PM
I should have asked before, does your Media Player work? Are you getting sound from it if you use it to play a song?

If so then it may just be a setting in Cool edit pro 2.

Hazz
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on May 30, 2007, 07:32:00 PM
I am getting sound, through my headphones, from everything but my line input.  All my hardware is functioning properly.  I am plugged directly to the line input from my guitar POD.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: NickT on May 30, 2007, 07:45:16 PM
The following is a copy from Adobe's website:

11. Determine monitoring needs (Audition Mix versus External monitoring).

Adobe Audition features three possible types of monitoring for the incoming audio signal. Selecting the proper monitoring type can help to avoid possible problems with driver performance. For more information about monitoring see the "To hear inputs with effects applied to tracks" section of the Audition User Guide on pages 54-55. Sound cards with low-latency drivers should perform equally well using any of the three monitoring methods. Sound cards with high latency drivers will cause a significant delay between what is being played and what is being monitored. If the delay is too long you may be limited to monitoring External inputs only.

To set the monitoring type choose Options > Monitoring and select one of the following:

-- Audition Mix > Smart Input: Monitors the input only when you record a track. Use this setting only if your sound card latency is low enough not to cause a signal delay.

-- Audition Mix > Always Input: Monitors the input at all times during playback and recording. Use this setting only if your sound card latency is low enough not to cause a signal delay.

-- External: Monitors the input directly from the sound card, without routing them through effects and sends in Adobe Audition. This option bypasses Adobe Audition and lets the sound card pass audio directly through to the outputs. For more details about monitoring directly through the sound card consult your sound card user guide.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on May 31, 2007, 11:55:03 PM
I dunno - maybe I'll put in my old sound card and see if that works.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on June 02, 2007, 11:15:14 AM
Any suggestions for a soundcard that will work?  I took my comp apart and noticed that mine was built right into the board.  If I put a new one into one of the PCI slots will it override the old one?

PS. thx for all the feedback :)
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: Sternen on June 03, 2007, 01:34:40 AM
It won't over ride the old one by just popping it in...  you would need to disable the old one in the Device Manager
(Right click on My Computer, choose mange, Click Device manager in pane to the left.)

I have 4 sound cards hooked up to my desktop.    :o

1.) The soundcard on the motherboard (disabled)
2.) My modem is one of those cheap "winmodem"s that has an integrated sound card (disabled)
3.) An Audigy 2 that I use for my computers audio output
4.) My firewire Audio interface that I use for recording.

So, esentially, I am doing what you are talking about doing, but in spades.   ;D

Some of the sound cards built onto motherboards are descent enough, but you will probably be happier with a 3rd party audio card.  There are some great, and fairly inexpensive, audio cards out there designed for recording that don't cost a whole lot more than a standard audio card (like an Audigy) Most of the audio cards designed for recording have monitoring functions built in (which, if I read correctly, is your main goal) I would keep that in mind if you decide to go this route.
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: mrVermin on June 16, 2007, 11:11:50 AM
thanks everyone - I got er working :)
Title: Re: volume controls
Post by: NickT on June 19, 2007, 08:34:02 AM
Glad to hear you got it going Mr V! 8)

Nick