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Title: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on April 25, 2009, 01:21:39 AM
Another one done. :)

Lyrics: Paul Dempsey
Vocals: Todd Swain
Drums: Gerald Langenfeld
Bass: Preston Miller
Guitar: George Williams
Composed, arranged & mixed by Steffen Offermann


Such A Fool

I must have been blind
Not to see the sadness
Behind your blue eyes

And I must have been deaf
Because I never heard
Any of your anguish cries

   Seems you're the lucky one
   Since you walked out
   And I know that I'm a fool
   There's no doubt
   Complacency is cruel
   And I'm such a fool
   Such a fool

Now my eyes are wide open
I see all that I lost
All I'll never replace

And my ears hear my cries
But the nights never end
And I've no one to embrace

   I've learned too late, I'm in the denial state
   And you're still gone
   Every night, every dawn
   You're still gone

   Seems you're the lucky one
   Since you walked out
   And I know that I'm a fool
   There's no doubt
   Complacency is cruel
   And I'm such a fool
   Such a fool
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: napoleonboot on April 25, 2009, 01:39:44 AM
I enjoyed playing on this.

This is the first time I have created harmony guitar parts, it was harder than I expected. A good learning experience.

George
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on April 25, 2009, 01:46:32 AM
It sounds as if you had been doing it for ages, George! :)

I hope to be working with you again soon.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: napoleonboot on April 25, 2009, 01:56:21 AM
It sounds as if you had been doing it for ages, George! :)

I have been playing harmony lead for ages, but only on this song.  :D
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on April 25, 2009, 02:29:11 AM
Then it should be much easier next time. I'll count you in. ;)
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: Jman on April 25, 2009, 11:25:11 AM
Nice mix Steffen.... sounds like we are all in the same room playing it live to me 8)
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on April 25, 2009, 12:31:30 PM
Btw: I'll probably do a "studio mix" some time later. But I don't know when ...
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: PVD on April 25, 2009, 07:08:35 PM
Guys, great job, I really like this one, simple but powerful.

Thanks for the chance to be involved.

Steffen, great job on the mix as usual.

Paul
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: Bassic_Soul on April 26, 2009, 02:10:59 AM
Nice mix Steffen.... sounds like we are all in the same room playing it live to me 8)

Ditto J,

Outstanding Steffen   :) :) :)

Preston
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on April 26, 2009, 02:48:59 AM
Thanks, guys, I'm glad you like the result! :) Thank you all again for making this possible!

I attached an alternative mix - more like what you'd find on an 80s CD. I think I like this one better. But decide for yourselves - I'll leave them both online. :)

I also did a 70s mix that is slightly different from the 80s mix but probably only noticeable for the experienced ear. If anybody is interested in that mix, call me! ;)

BTW - anybody interested in a FLAC version of the final mix(es)?

Regards,
  Steffen

Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: Paulo on April 26, 2009, 04:24:51 AM
Very Beautifull tune, nice vocals... I only don't like one thing, the String. I think they're too much synthetic for such an acustic song, on the other side they're too much loud on the mix...

Anyway, if those are the kind of strings you guys like for this song, I'd tweak the atack, sustain and realease because they start and finish very abrupt, they should start sort of fading in and finish sort of fading out.

Dunno if what I said makes any sense, only my opinion.

Beautifull song and great words. Keep rocking guys.
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on April 26, 2009, 04:34:26 AM
Thanks for your comment, Paulo! :)

I'll listen to the strings again. You may be right as I must admit that I did not pay too much attention to the strings in terms of articulation. It works for my ears, but my ears are always tired, so I should not trust them too much. ;)

Can you do me the favor and listen to the 80s mix too? I think it works slightly better.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: Paulo on April 26, 2009, 04:39:28 AM
Steffen,
I think there's the same problem with the strings on the second mix... They should be smoother to fit better in this tune, just my opinion.

Still, I love the song, is beautifull
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: soulfrontier on April 26, 2009, 05:41:33 AM
beautiful sad song Steffen! I think it sounds great.
I left my comment also on MoM  ;)

cheers
Holger
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on April 26, 2009, 06:12:05 AM
Danke, Holger! :)

Paulo, I listened again, but I could not find anything wrong with the strings. Can you tell me where exactly you think they should be softer?

The attack actually is very slow, but the sustain may be a bit short. Is that what you mean?

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: Paulo on April 26, 2009, 06:27:28 AM
Steffen,
If you think it is OK, forget my words. I onlly thought you could use a different kind of Strings, something more soft and warm, less thin... Everything is subjectif. All the critics are OK, maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe like those strings here, dunno
http://www.musicianscollaboration.com/forum/index.php?topic=3103.0
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on April 26, 2009, 06:47:14 AM
Hi, Paulo!

Quote
I onlly thought you could use a different kind of Strings, something more soft and warm, less thin

Ok, now I see what you mean. I think the string patch itself is fine, but I may have reduced the mids/boosted the high frequencies too much. It may depend on the speakers though.

Can we have some more opinions? I will do another alternative mix with warmer strings if necessary.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: Studioplayer on April 30, 2009, 01:20:51 AM
Always nice to hear Todd's voice. He always has such a nice warmth. Nice tune guys.  :) I feel like I'm watching a play. Would make for a good theatre song. As for the strings they weren't bad. Maybe a bit too up front. Personally I'd like to hear stronger piano as the main instrument and strings should just be ever so present in the background. Sounds nice.  :)

Dave
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: Todd on April 30, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Thanks evryone for the kind words!

Thanks for letting me jump in on this one also Steffen!

Turned out real nice!
Thanks,
Todd
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: CosmicDolphin on May 01, 2009, 05:40:26 PM
Nice song , Todd has the perfect voice for it.

CD
Title: Re: Such A Fool (PVD, Todd, GuitarGeorge, Jman, Bassic_Soul, Stoman)
Post by: stoman on May 02, 2009, 03:59:55 PM
Thanks, guys!

Yes, Todd is the perfect singer for this song. Everybody who listened to it said that. :)

Regards,
  Steffen