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Title: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on June 20, 2010, 01:39:10 PM
In A Better World

Vocals: Mark Lee Fletcher
Lyrics: Mark Lee Fletcher & Steffen Offermann
Electric Guitars: Roger Wilkerson
Acoustic Guitar: Mark Lee Fletcher
Bass: William Fisher
All Other Instruments: Steffen Offermann
Composed, arranged & mixed by Steffen Offermann

Thanks to all contributors! Another one done. :)

Edit: New mix posted
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: riggorog on June 21, 2010, 01:32:01 PM
Sounds good Steffen! i downloaded the seps and might take a stab at mixing too if I have time down the line. It's something I'm trying to get better at :)

Roger
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: Torren61 on June 22, 2010, 04:53:56 AM
VERY nice work Steffen.  That tightened up quite a bit.  I like it a lot.
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on June 23, 2010, 01:05:17 PM
Thanks for playing, William and Roger!

You may not have noticed that the mix I posted here is different from my latest update in Studio "A"!

I added a slightly modified mix today where I hopefully improved the 70s feel.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: Torren61 on June 23, 2010, 01:38:04 PM
I noticed.   :D
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: riggorog on June 23, 2010, 01:59:25 PM
Sounds good Steffen! I noticed the changes, also. Do you mind if I add this to my music sites (Facebook, IMW, MySpace)? I'd list everyone's contributions of course :)

Roger
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on June 23, 2010, 02:05:45 PM
Feel free, Roger! This is your song as much as William's, Mark's and mine. :)

Guys, are you SURE you noticed the update? It has not been downloaded yet. ;)

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: riggorog on June 23, 2010, 02:12:55 PM
Thanks Steffen! I downloaded the 1st one, but sounded different to me vs. what I had before. I'll download the other now :)
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: Torren61 on June 23, 2010, 04:09:59 PM
Oh... yeah.  I like this one the best.  It DOES sound different to the others.  This one is tighter.
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on June 24, 2010, 12:52:56 AM
I removed the older version.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: Donna on July 03, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Steffen, this song has a long history, eh?  ;)

I've always loved this music track of yours, and Mark has done full justice to it with his lyrics and vocals. Very nice guitar and bass as well, to say nothing of "all other instruments".  :)

Donna
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on July 12, 2010, 03:57:46 PM
Thanks, Donna! :)

This song has received a lot of interest at a German site too. A couple of guys have done alternative mixes - and one more to follow (a pro!).

I've attached another update of my own mix to the first post. It sounds even tighter and more "analog/vintage" to me now.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: AndyG6508 on July 12, 2010, 04:00:33 PM
Steffen,

You know my taste by now (or lack of it!).

Which mix should I download to listen? :)

Andy
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: AndyG6508 on July 12, 2010, 04:06:09 PM
Hey Steffen,

Wow - a delightful slice of retro rock. Loved the relaxed sound of this - very late 60s.

Solid hook and great perfomances from everyone. Nice instrumentation

Nice mix of exotic instruments as well - indian percussion, flute, and sitar?? :).

Killer organ playing too!

Andy
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on July 12, 2010, 04:12:51 PM
Thanks for listening, Andy! :) I wanted a 70s sound, but late 60s is even better for this kind of song. ;)

Do I know your taste?  :-\  8)

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indian percussion, flute, and sitar??
No sitar. :) 8)

I've just finished a remix of "Jennifer" - that one does have a sitar. I'll post it here in a couple of days.

Regards,
  Steffen




Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: AndyG6508 on July 12, 2010, 04:16:01 PM
Oh great - I liked Jennifer as well. Look forward to hear the revised mix.

I could have sworn I heard a twangy stringed instrument - guitar then?

My taste - retro rock, prog rock all with bass and drums mixed high ;D

Andy


Quote from: stoman on July 12, 2010, 04:12:51 PM
Thanks for listening, Andy! :) I wanted a 70s sound, but late 60s is even better for this kind of song. ;)

Do I know your taste?  :-\  8)

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indian percussion, flute, and sitar??
No sitar. :) 8)

I've just finished a remix of "Jennifer" - that one does have a sitar. I'll post it here in a couple of days.

Regards,
  Steffen





Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on July 12, 2010, 04:20:57 PM
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guitar then?
Yep. :)

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all with bass and drums mixed high
Ah, yes, now I do remember. :D

Well, the bass is pretty dominant in this song - now I understand why you like it. 8)

As for Jennifer: I wanted to try a more modern mix (yes, it's me, Steffen! ;) ). But it did not work so well, so I came up with almost the same mix as before - but with a better sound quality (IMO). I had not paid enough attention to the various issues with the vocal recording in the original version.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: Studioplayer on July 13, 2010, 03:44:39 PM
Nice song. Love the feel of this. Cool 60 - 70's vibe. I always love Marks voice. Where is that guy lately anyways? Haven't seen him here for awhile.  :( Nice music Steffen.  8)

Dave
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: Black Stratman on July 18, 2010, 08:26:41 AM
This sounds great, a very well written and arranged song  :).You have got a very good mix here Steffen, just right for this genre, the vocals in particular stand out really well.  :)

Bobby
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on July 25, 2010, 01:10:28 PM
Bobby and Dave, thank you for your kind comments! :)

Yes, Mark hasn't been around for a while. I wonder why.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: cyclone on July 25, 2010, 05:57:30 PM
Steffen,
           This turned out quite well. I still remmemmber it with a synthetic singer, she had substance but no body. ;D

                                     cyclone
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: Stoney on July 26, 2010, 06:02:00 AM
Very Nice Steffen and Guys

A tight pop/rock song and I love the different sounds you have woven in there ...the flute is great

Great stuff

Ian :)
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: detune on August 28, 2010, 09:41:59 AM
I've been out of the loop and didn't realize this was posted.  Great job with the new mix, Steffen!  I like the new drums.

Quote from: stoman on July 25, 2010, 01:10:28 PM

Yes, Mark hasn't been around for a while. I wonder why.


Still dealing with ear problems, but I hope to be back soon.

Mark
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on August 29, 2010, 01:00:41 AM
Glad you like it, guys! I'm no longer satisfied with this mix though - I've a couple of great new plugins (especially for reverb), and plan to remix this song from scratch. It does not sound "organic" to me yet.

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: detune on August 29, 2010, 05:41:55 PM
The instrumental section might need work IMO.  It is good for a couple of measures, with Roger's rhythm coming in, but then you kind of expect a solo instrument of some sort.
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: riggorog on August 29, 2010, 06:52:37 PM
I did a solo for it but never got used ;)
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on August 30, 2010, 10:27:58 AM
You did not post that solo, Roger, did you?  ???

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: riggorog on August 30, 2010, 10:53:57 AM
I posted a mix with it (http://www.musicianscollaboration.com/forum/index.php?topic=4893.msg119468#msg119468), but I don't think anyone was really into it, so never posted the sep. I can try to find if you still want to use it, but not a big deal. Not sure if I even still have it on comp :)
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on August 31, 2010, 01:11:56 PM
Sure, Roger, the more material there is to choose from the better. :)

I sometimes like to use just little snippets from the tracks I get, just to put some salt in the soup ...

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: stoman on September 26, 2010, 12:51:13 PM
I made the intro (hopefully) more interesting, added some spice to the bridge and mixed the song from scratch, trying to give it a nice, thick "analog" feel.

I like it MUCH better now. The only thing that still bugs me is the synthetic drums section, but you cannot always get what you want ...

I'll post the new mix in a minute. Please take a look at the first post then!

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: In A Better World (William, Roger, Mark, Steffen) [fixed!]
Post by: riggorog on September 26, 2010, 01:38:24 PM
Sounds good Steffen! Guitars sound better I think :) I agree on the drums. Would have been nice to have real drums on this.

Roger