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Title: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on December 21, 2011, 08:45:03 PM
UPdate 26-12-11: New mix by Steffen with improved bottom end posted!

Hi MCS,

Johnny came up with a great lyric about a machine he has designed...so I tried to set it to suitable music. Once again I had a great bunch of guys to work with. And their contributions were first rate, from Holger's awesome rock vocal, to AndyD's screaming guitar, and finally Steffen's skills in weaving together a very good mix (even if he may not think so and threw his hands about in the air a bit ;)).


Thanks lads!
Andy

PS - C'mon Johnny show us a picture of the thing unless its been commandeered by the Pentagon  ;).

My Machine (Lyrics: Johnny, Music:AndyG, (c) 2011

Alone at night in my workshop
Hammering out details
Ev'ryday I'm workin' non-stop
Dreaming of the holy grail

You should see how high she soars
With the sails on her scissor wings
She can row her sail like an oar
Sculls thru the sky of my dreams

(Ch)
You should see my machine
Beautiful and serpentine
You should see my machine
Long and lean with scissor wings
Machine, she's my machine
Machine, my-my machine

She devours wind for power
Spits it back out like cream
I sat her on an ivory tower
where we dream up mechanical things

I made her bellows an' nice, full bladders
Squeezes them when they're full
In my dream she's a dragonfly udder
With fat, pink nipples to pull

(Ch)
You should see my machine
Beautiful and serpentine
You should see my machine
I dreamed of her for all these years
You should see my machine
All precision engineered
You should see my machine
Long and lean with scissor wings

Late nights in my workshop
Hammering out details
Ev'ryday workin' non-stop
Dreaming of the holy grail

Machine..she's my machine
Machine...My-my machine

The Machine Band:

Johnny Williams: Lyrics
Holger Bremer: Vocals
Andy Doherty: Guitars
Steffen Offermann: SFX, Mix/master
Andy Gupta: Music, bass
Machinehead "Udder the Brudder": Drums
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: docca3 on December 22, 2011, 04:54:31 AM
Woo Hoo - great to see it here ... what a blast to be involved with. It was great fun to be able to let rip - thanks for having me on board :D I know Stef had trouble with the mixing, but I love both of them he's come up with ... great job 8)

AndyD
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: Johnny on December 22, 2011, 06:06:30 AM

"WoW" fellas that is sooooo much fun!!! ;D :) :) :) :) ;D :o 8)

I love both mixes equally...

Steffen, you're like a fussy tailor ;D

It's "buttons or bows" at this point, my friend ;)

To the untrained ear the drums sound very cool :o

"You should see my machine"

She's poetry in motion....

Unfortunately, other folks have investment and the project is too young... :-\

My lyric paints a pretty good portrait ;D ;D

the lovely hows remain unrevealed ::)

This i promise, as it comes about,

You folks are first on the list! ;)

Meanwhile, let "My Machine" thunder roll across the Heavens as a herald!

Billions of mega-watts of free, clean energy flow around us everyday

"enough to create any world we can imagine"

I love the song, Andy. It's a masterpiece! 8)

AndyD, the solo is sooo satisfying (i hope you interpret that right) :D

Holger...what can i do...but keep thanking you again and again. "Thank You my friend"

And that freaking newbie "Udder the Brudder" you rock dude!!!! 8) 8) 8)

Cheers, Everyone! :)
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Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on December 22, 2011, 12:07:39 PM
Hi Johnny,

Im glad that you feel the music does justice to the very cool lyric of yours. All the best with the machine and hope to see it for real soon!

Andy

Quote from: Johnny on December 22, 2011, 06:06:30 AM
I love the song, Andy. It's a masterpiece! 8)
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: stoman on December 22, 2011, 12:14:18 PM
I can't wait to see that machine! :)

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: Mr. Mom on December 22, 2011, 11:59:58 PM
Awesome song guys!!

Johnny, if you're machine gets picked up by a commercial enterprise... you already have the musical score to go along with the informational video - VERY COOL 8) 8)

PS - If you strike it rich... PAY MY ELECTRIC BILL :o ;D
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 23, 2011, 05:35:09 AM
Cool Song,

The lyrics are great and it's well played all around. Any song that includes the word nipples gets my vote  >:D

I preferred the first mix posted. The vocals seem a little too low in the 2nd mix and it's a little bass shy.

I did read the thread so I know Steffen didn't have drum seps, which always means the mix is always going to be compromised. This is why the drums & bass aren't really working for me ....please drummers...always give the mixer seperate drum tracks otherwise we can't mix it properly !!!

As a whole I think just wanted a more raw & aggressive sound, I know Steffen tends to like his music cleaner but when it's genre appropriate a bit more heavy handed compression and distortion can go a long way.

Good Job Guys  :)

CD
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: Johnny on December 23, 2011, 06:39:11 AM
Mark! :)

Thank you for the nod on the lyric ;)

Steffen, and you hear things that most don't! ;)

"Fat, pink nipples" my favorite kind!

Interesting...

I recall a scene in "Fantasia" where the breasts of some woodland nymphs were exposed ::)

All breast....No nipples! ;D

Men can expose their nipples without a second nod, but...

You ladies better keep those nasty things covered... >:D

John!, "You got it" 8)



Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: Mr. Mom on December 23, 2011, 09:47:28 AM
 ;D On second thought Johnny... I'll gladly swap the electric bill for two of those nipple thingy's. :o :D
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: stoman on December 23, 2011, 10:40:13 AM
Boys ... :D 8)

Mark, thanks for singing the same tune! ;)

As for compression: The more I compress this song the more obvious the problems get. The toms are quite boomy too, but without the individual drum seps I can find no satisfying way to address that.

But let's wait until next year. Real drums have been promised. :)

Regards,
  Steffen
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: PVD on December 23, 2011, 12:13:19 PM
Guys:

Great listen, good package.

Paul
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: r4m on December 23, 2011, 02:37:27 PM
Nice one guys!!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 23, 2011, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: stoman on December 23, 2011, 10:40:13 AM
As for compression: The more I compress this song the more obvious the problems get. The toms are quite boomy too, but without the individual drum seps I can find no satisfying way to address that.

Could try parallel compression , dynamic eq & Multing ?

CD
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: stoman on December 23, 2011, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: CosmicDolphin on December 23, 2011, 02:56:47 PM
Could try parallel compression , dynamic eq & Multing ?

I've already done all that.

I posted a modified version today (on the thread in Studio "A") where it works better IMO. But still the basic problems remain.

BTW - when I master songs I almost always use parallel compression. I don't usually compress a lot though. What is you preferred way to deal with compression in the mastering chain?

Regards,
  Steffen

Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: CosmicDolphin on December 23, 2011, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: stoman on December 23, 2011, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: CosmicDolphin on December 23, 2011, 02:56:47 PM
Could try parallel compression , dynamic eq & Multing ?

I've already done all that.

I posted a modified version today (on the thread in Studio "A") where it works better IMO. But still the basic problems remain.

BTW - when I master songs I almost always use parallel compression. I don't usually compress a lot though. What is you preferred way to deal with compression in the mastering chain?


Sorry Steffen , I actually meant during the mix rather than any kind of mastering processing.

If I was mixing a stereo drum file with boomy toms, I'd probably snip them onto a separate cloned track and insert a dynamic eq to pull the boomyness out just on that section. Also that way if you had a drum compression buss running in parallel then the section with the toms wouldn't necessarily have to be routed to it also which may help.

I'd probably clone them and set up a fake 'room' mic type sound to ride in and out through the mix too. Sometimes I've made several clones with radical eq so I can trigger samples.  It's a PITA but you can still get alot of mileage from a stereo drum file if you need to.

With mastering it just depends.  I have about 4 compressors I like for mastering , one of them has a mix setting for parallel compression. I just go for the one that sounds best for the song, it's not always the same one.  I use wavelab so it's easy to insert a few, put similar setting into them and then 'audtion' them using the bypass button.  Sometimes it sounds better with two on gentle settings , other times I've not used one at all.

CD

Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: stoman on December 23, 2011, 04:03:17 PM
I meant the same. :)

I did that with the kick, and I also used the separated kick "ghost track" to trigger some bass compression.

The room mic trick is something I've not tried though. That's a new idea to me.

But like you said: It's no fun mixing stereo drums. On the other hand it's a good way to learn new tricks. ;)

Andy, you please ignore that! :P

Regards,
  Steffen

Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: soulfrontier on December 26, 2011, 08:35:19 AM
great song Andy, great work by everyone. Thanks for letting me be a part of it!
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: Paulo on December 26, 2011, 04:19:21 PM
I like it... sounds good with or without drums seps... could be better, that's a fact but it's not that bad.
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on December 26, 2011, 09:46:38 PM
UPdate 26-12-11: New mix by Steffen with more presence on the bottom end posted!


Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: soulfrontier on December 28, 2011, 01:36:48 PM
 :)
I like the new mix!
 :)
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on December 28, 2011, 01:46:58 PM
Thanks Holger mate!!

Your vocal is super btw I havent heard you rock so hard before :)

Andy

Quote from: soulfrontier on December 28, 2011, 01:36:48 PM
:)
I like the new mix!
 :)
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: snowdoguk on December 30, 2011, 04:08:43 PM
Interesting song guys... I want to see this machine as well !!!

Well done everyone
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on January 02, 2012, 01:09:30 PM
Thanks muchly Paulo and Snowy, for dropping in and leaving a nice comment :)

ANdy
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: Stoney on January 02, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
Very cool track guys ... What kind of licence would you need for a wild machine like that ... Do you need a test pilot???

Well done all

Ian  :)
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on January 02, 2012, 07:08:27 PM
i cant hear a word youre saying :)

Quote from: stoman on December 23, 2011, 04:03:17 PM
But like you said: It's no fun mixing stereo drums. On the other hand it's a good way to learn new tricks. ;)

Andy, you please ignore that! :P

Regards,
  Steffen


Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on January 02, 2012, 07:09:45 PM
Thanks Stoney for the appreciative comment!! We havent done a track together in a while.

I will leave it to Johnny to answer questions about the machine! ;)

Andy


Quote from: Stonehead on January 02, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
Very cool track guys ... What kind of licence would you need for a wild machine like that ... Do you need a test pilot???

Well done all

Ian  :)
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: Johnny on January 03, 2012, 10:15:48 AM
I down loaded this song and, i'll be damed! :)

Up popped a picture of my machine!

Man, she never looked better ;)

'cept she looks hungry! ::)

Very cool AndyD... :)

Can't wait to see more of that! 8)

Cheers! :D
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: Studioplayer on January 04, 2012, 12:37:25 PM
Cool tune. Holger's got the vocals for rock. The effects and mix sounds great. Everything sounds good. Fantastic tune guys!  8)

Dave
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on January 05, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Thanks Dave - Im glad you liked the song. Yes, Holger rocked it!

ANdy

Quote from: Studioplayer on January 04, 2012, 12:37:25 PM
Cool tune. Holger's got the vocals for rock. The effects and mix sounds great. Everything sounds good. Fantastic tune guys!  8)

Dave
Title: Re: My Machine (Part2) - Johnny/Docca3/Holger/Steffen/AndyG
Post by: AndyG6508 on January 05, 2012, 05:06:30 PM
Paul, Bill and CD,

Thanks for dropping by for a listen and for the kind comment.

CD - thanks for your advice re mixing :)

ANdy